This is my loomed belt that I used to wear when we were still Rendevousing..I couldn't even get this around my waist...waist...did I say waist? Lets rephrase that..I couldn't even get this around my MIDDLE any more. I loomed the beadwork and then attached it to the leather belt that I made. It held up very well to a lot of use. I also loomed strips that Jack attached to his Leather shirt. They held up very well also. I don't care what you say, Nymo thread is my favorite.